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Offline Hal  
#1 Posted : 13 May 2013 11:12:59(UTC)
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Lo MO.

Anyone know of a good free pc tuning program?

Bought this computer for 1400 euro and i gotta be honest, im dissapointed.
Thought id run some auto tuning and cross my thumbs.
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#2 Posted : 13 May 2013 14:30:45(UTC)
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Hi Hal,

You are unbale to tune this Processor as its an locked edition.
Only if the processor type ends with a K you can tune it but yours is a QM

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#3 Posted : 13 May 2013 16:32:13(UTC)
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Ok, a few hints with a new laptop/notebook

Get PC Decrapifier ( http://pcdecrapifier.com ) and get rid of all the adware / bloatware / trial software etc etc.
Next, get Ccleaner ( http://www.piriform.com/download ) and run cleanup tasks and registry cleanup ( this you need to do a few times, since it will find new registry "issues" after cleaning registry ) - as a note: I never ( ever ) create a backup of the registry before cleaning, have done it thousands of times, and never had an issue with it.

Check if your SSD has TRIM enabled ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM )

From what I can see is inside the laptop ( hardware ), it should run like a warm knife through soft butter..


Also, PC decrapifier and Ccleaner are cleaning tools, but is by far a lesser option than just reinstalling Windows 7 ( or if you fancy it, Windows 8 ) all together and get a REAL clean start.


As a last note ( another edit :D ) Rightclick "My Computer" and select properties. Do a refresh of the Windows Experience Index ( where there's a grade like 5.7 or something similar ) to see what a bottleneck for performance might be.


And if you dont mind me asking, what exactly were your expectations when buying the laptop, and what exactly is disappointing?

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#4 Posted : 13 May 2013 16:40:27(UTC)
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Hi Hal,

You are unbale to tune this Processor as its an locked edition.
Only if the processor type ends with a K you can tune it but yours is a QM

V.


you wannabe tweaker you... :D ( Yes, I saw your profile on t.net ;-) )
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#5 Posted : 13 May 2013 18:24:53(UTC)
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Offline Nam  
#6 Posted : 14 May 2013 09:14:40(UTC)
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#7 Posted : 14 May 2013 09:27:58(UTC)
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Thanks Nam.

Its a clevo computer so it comes with nothing installed.
Thanks for Ccleaner tip, been running that for quite some years.
Ill look into SSD trim thingy.

Yesterday i got these stats from 3D MARK


I was expecting to run wow at full ultra (like at my old home comuter).
When BF3 was released i looked at a MSI runnig the game so incredible smooth, i was sure this new technology was gonna crush WOW... how wrong was i :/ Low medium setting with 20-40 FPS in LFR 25 man.
Well .. well, at least i tried a laptop once, i just wish i bought a cheaper one as i doubt i got a 1400euro performace now.

..oh and one more thing, new drivers are so hard to find. Cant just dl from atis page, if you do, and you try to install them, you get a message you have to serach them from your manufactory site. How gay is that? As there are none from Clevo site to get (not that i found) how ever with some whining at sweclockers i got new drivers.
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Offline Nam  
#8 Posted : 14 May 2013 10:54:09(UTC)
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No problem m8

Comparing your results on 3dmark now, to other laptops. Weird thing is, that a Dell/Alienware with the same specs as your laptop, performs about 4 times better than your laptop. There's a test posted there, with a Alienware laptop, with the CPU speed boost off, no SLI, and 8GB RAM doing better than yours with CPU boost on. Something fishy is going on with yours m8, and it's really underperforming from what I can see.

Also, WoW has to be the worst engine to get any solid benchmark for a PC or laptop. First, WoW is designed with Nvidia cards in mind, not ATI ( has been since vanilla, even though they do more with ATI cards now, but not enough still ). I have an Nvidia card, and my PC specs are a lot less than your new laptop. I run at everything on Ultra - except shadows, with around 100fps in world, and 50-70 in 25m LFR.
Fact is still: Laptops are not meant for gaming, even if they have the best hardware from the best vendors/manufacturers. They will always perform less than a PC with lesser specs. ( no source, but general knowledge, even if people have better experiences personally )

I dont want to cause you any headaches, but I think you'd be best off with a complete reinstall of Windows 7. Make sure the SSD has the latest firmware, and after installing Windows, make sure TRIM is on. Just do a clean Windows install with latest drivers ( make sure you only install drivers, and no software packages that come with it ), dont install anything else, and run 3dmark, and see if it has improved. ( My guess is that it will, but if not, throw the laptop through the retailers window and demand a refund! ) You can also find out the manufacturer of the graphics chip, through the hardware ID, and check that on www.pcidatabase.com,maybe you can find the correct drivers ( NOTE though, the Alienware laptop had the same warning on the benchmarks )

Sadly, there is no cut and paste solution to performance issues, it's all trial and error, and when ( if ) you change something and you get a drastic improvement, it's probably one of those "OH DAMN WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT BEFORE" moments..

Goodluck on getting it solved m8, performance tweaking is a bitch, and you're never sure if it's a software or hardware issue if something is not performing as it should. If you have more information or questions, just shoot, and I'll see if I can help more.
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#9 Posted : 14 May 2013 21:00:42(UTC)
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Thanks Nam.

I might just do that during summer. Its my work laptop so i need it up and running atm.
I did find this though, get it, love it Slimdrivers
Updated like 15-20 drivers in a bounch. Afterwards wow did run smoother. I installed BF3 again just to get another wiev and that looked amazing. So im licking my wounds and feeling somewhat better.

Thanks again for the input =)
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Offline Nam  
#10 Posted : 15 May 2013 07:11:43(UTC)
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I'm ( personally ) not really into that whole "scan my pc" software. Not for updates, not for virusses etc etc. I've been using computers without firewall and no virus scanner for the last 10 years I guess. Never had any problems with my computer. Do an occasional "online virusscan" when I think my PC is getting slower ( put on my tinfoil hat then as well ), but nothing ever infected my computer.

But, if it works for you, then its great software! I keep my PC up to date manually.. Oldschool baby, rawr "/insert Austin Powers look here"

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#11 Posted : 15 May 2013 12:21:04(UTC)
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Comparing your results on 3dmark now, to other laptops. Weird thing is, that a Dell/Alienware with the same specs as your laptop, performs about 4 times better than your laptop. .


How did you get to this conclusion? Any links i can use if i decide to use my guarantee? Also id like to update my post on sweclock forum with some evidence so they sell less of these computers.
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Offline Nam  
#12 Posted : 15 May 2013 19:49:47(UTC)
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I checked the results from Firestrike. You get a graph bar, showing other systems' scores. The orange bar shows ( 31 ) systems with similar scores as yours. In the bottom of the graph, you can see the scores, your system being in the 1000 points on Firestrike. I checked systems that are doing 4000 scores, and compared those systems with what you have.

I'm even going to make it worse for you now, because by looking again ( trying to find that alienware ), I found this:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/197535

It's also a Clevo, same motherboard, same RAM and CPU ( CPU was clocked lower during the test than yours ), and it has a 750GB SATA drive.

Your score ( just 3dmark ) was 641, that one was 3738.

There is something wrong with your system buddy, probably hardware related. I dont believe that this big of a difference can come from an old driver, or anything..

compare your system http://www.3dmark.com/fs/453534 with that test ( 2 tabs next to eachother ), and you'll see what I mean.
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#13 Posted : 15 May 2013 22:19:39(UTC)
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thanks m8, now i got something solid to show.
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Offline Nam  
#14 Posted : 16 May 2013 09:44:58(UTC)
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thanks m8, now i got something solid to show.


any time buddy..

Hope you get it resolved
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#15 Posted : 16 May 2013 11:30:06(UTC)
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Just to wrap this up.

The gfx card have a performace swapper.
Manually turning it up gave:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/461038

So i learned setting highperformance in general with net adapter dosnt really mean anything. You have to enble everyprogram one by one.

At least i can get some rest now .=/

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Offline Nam  
#16 Posted : 16 May 2013 16:12:02(UTC)
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DOH!
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